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Greetings Y.O.R.W.W. Congregation

Attention: Bejay

I have come across another interesting chapter in the Book of Isaiah during the Y.O.R.W.W. scheduled daily Bible reading. The Ryrie NIV study Bible places the heading, "The Salvation Of The Sevant-Messiah" on Isaiah chapter 49. This title seems to be an appropriate heading. The Webster’s Unabridged Dictionary defines the word Servant as: "1. the act of saving or protecting from harm, risk loss, destruction 3. a source, cause, or means of being saved or protected from harm, risk, or etc."

Isaiah 49 verse 6 talks about saving Israel and it reads, "to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept." NIV Verse 6 goes on by saying, "I will also make you a light for the Gentiles that you may bring my salvation to the ends of the earth." In this verse, Jehovah talks about restoring both the tribes of Jacob and being a light for the Gentiles.

What is exactly meant in the expression, "make you a light for the Gentiles"? Are these Gentiles perhaps part of the 200 million that will join the MDS in the near future or could these be the ones that join the MDS after the 200 million number has been fulfilled?

Another interesting verse is located in Isaiah 49 verse 20. It seems to be a prophecy that has not yet been fulfilled. Verse 20 reads, "The children born during your bereavement will yet say in your hearing, This place is too small for us; give us more space to live in." NIV It seems quite unlikely that this verse is referring to Israel of the past. The land area that Jehovah gave Ancient Israel was not small; there was plenty of room for all.

Perhaps Isaiah chapter 49 verse 20 is a future fulfillment that is related to Acts chapter 1 verse 6. If this is a future fulfillment, why would Israel be restored to land that the "children" consider small?

Thanks much for your time.

Philia

Patrick

Patrick wrote:Attention: Bejay

...Isaiah 49 verse 6 talks about saving Israel and it reads, "to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept." NIV Verse 6 goes on by saying, "I will also make you a light for the Gentiles that you may bring my salvation to the ends of the earth." In this verse, Jehovah talks about restoring both the tribes of Jacob and being a light for the Gentiles.

What is exactly meant in the expression, "make you a light for the Gentiles"? Are these Gentiles perhaps part of the 200 million that will join the MDS in the near future or could these be the ones that join the MDS after the 200 million number has been fulfilled?

Hi Patrick,

Actually, the "gentiles" or "nations" that the Modern Day Servant [MDS] will become a "light" to is not the 200 million themselves, since the 200 million are viewed as a part of Israel, the nation itself. Therefore, these "nations" that the Modern Day "Servant" [MDS] will become a "light" to represent the fulfillment of Matthew 24:14 which says:

"And this good news of the kingdom will be preached TO ALL THE INHABITED EARTH for a witness to ALL THE NATIONS [Gentiles] and then the end [of the Jewish system of things] will come."

Therefore, the "Gentiles" that the MDS becomes a "light" to, then become the "Other Sheep" as Jesus put it, "who are NOT of this [Jewish] fold." In other words, they are NOT of the "fold" of Israel, like the 200 million will be. -- See John 10:16.

Another interesting verse is located in Isaiah 49 verse 20. It seems to be a prophecy that has not yet been fulfilled. Verse 20 reads, "The children born during your bereavement will yet say in your hearing, This place is too small for us; give us more space to live in." NIV It seems quite unlikely that this verse is referring to Israel of the past. The land area that Jehovah gave Ancient Israel was not small; there was plenty of room for all.

Perhaps Isaiah chapter 49 verse 20 is a future fulfillment that is related to Acts chapter 1 verse 6. If this is a future fulfillment, why would Israel be restored to land that the "children" consider small?

Actually, this verse refers also to the "nations" that will become followers of the MDS, in his role as the guiding "light" for them. These people are NOT known to the "woman" in this instance. She does not know who they are. Whereas, we know, she will have some familiarity with the 200 Million, because of their contact with her during the 42 months of trampling. (See Isaiah 32:1-8.)

They are born to the "woman" [Jerusalem] as her "sons of her bereavement" state. This means, these individuals are "born" during the time of her "bereavement" of her previous "sons" who have now gone over to complete apostasy and have received the "mark of the beast." In other words, she loses her former brothers, Jehovah's Witnesses who now follow the Watchtower Society and receive the "mark of the beast." (Rev. 13:11-18) It will be during this critical time, during the 42 months of trampling, that such a unique situation could develop, wherein individuals UNKNOWN to Jehovah's Witnesses now, would at that time begin to respond to the "good news" that is preached by the YORWW Congregation, some 200 million strong, to all "nations" as a "light" to them. When this happens, Matthew 21:43 will have been fulfilled again, as the YORWW Congregation will have REPLACED the organization known as Jehovah's Witnesses, led by the Watchtower Society, and will thus faithfully carry out this holy assignment of preaching the "good news" of the kingdom, worldwide, as Jesus promised. -- Mark 13:10

Hope this helps,

bejay

Hi Patrick,

Just wanted to comment on the title of this thread. As you know, the role of the "Servant" as viewed in this world is overemphasized, his importance exaggerated greatly as many think of Jesus, the original "Servant" of God, to be God Himself. And since they think of Jesus as being God Himself, they find no problem is saying:

"The Salvation of Jesus,"

when the bible makes clear who is our real "Savior." In Isaiah 49:6, you will notice, Jehovah does say to His "Servant":

"...I [Jehovah] also have given you [the Servant] for a light of the nations, that MY SALVATION may come to be to the extremity of the earth." -- Isaiah 49:6

Jehovah says: "MY Salvation." So then, this is God's "Salvation," God's Purposes, that ultimately "saves" humankind. God's Salvation.

Then too, continued in Isaiah 49th Chapter, the chapter under consideration, and verse 26 it plainly says:

"...And all flesh will have to know that I, JEHOVAH, am your SAVIOR and your REPURCHASER, the Powerful One of Jacob."

Therefore, this being the case, the "Servant" of Jehovah then, must be understood to be God's "Savior" in a secondary sense. Only in this way, could God's "Servant" be viewed as a "Savior" of mankind.

This being the case, Isaiah 43:11 says ever so eloquently:

"For I am Jehovah your God, the Holy One of Israel your Savior...I -- I am Jehovah, and BESIDES ME THERE IS NO SAVIOR."

So then, if we decide to bestow a rather glorious title like "savior" upon Jesus Christ or the Modern Day "Servant" of our time, then this must be done with full knowledge and recognition that only Jehovah God, and only Him, should be regarded as our True Savior, now and forevermore. And further, that any other "savior," that is sent by that One, and recognized as such, must be righteously considered, a secondary one.

Hope this helps.

yorww

yorww wrote:Hi Patrick,

Just wanted to comment on the title of this thread. As you know, the role of the "Servant" as viewed in this world is overemphasized, his importance exaggerated greatly as many think of Jesus, the original "Servant" of God, to be God Himself. And since they think of Jesus as being God Himself, they find no problem is saying:

"The Salvation of Jesus,"

only Jehovah God, and only Him, should be regarded as our True Savior, now and forevermore. And further, that any other "savior," that is sent by that One, and recognized as such, must be righteously considered, a secondary one.

Hope this helps.

yorww

Greetings Y.O.R.W.W. Congregation,

Thank you much for the insight on the posting of "The Salvation of The Servant-Messiah--Isaiah 49".

Y.O.R.W.W. Congregation's insight on God's word is most appreciative.

Yes I agree, the world today has placed too much emphesis on Jesus Christ. Instead of worshipping Jehovah God, people are worshipping Jesus Christ to the point of believing Jesus as being "God".

In the book of John, Jesus clearly explains that his father--Jehovah--is greater than he is-- "the Father is greater than I" John 14:28 (NWT).

As the Y.O.R.W.W. Congregation has made so clear, Mankind's ultimate salvation rest with Jehovah God.

Philia

Patrick

Hi Guest,

Actually, the "gentiles" or "nations" that the Modern Day Servant [MDS] will become a "light" to is not the 200 million themselves, since the 200 million are viewed as a part of Israel, the nation itself. Therefore, these "nations" that the Modern Day "Servant" [MDS] will become a "light" to represent the fulfillment of Matthew 24:14 which says:

"And this good news of the kingdom will be preached TO ALL THE INHABITED EARTH for a witness to ALL THE NATIONS [Gentiles] and then the end [of the Jewish system of things] will come."

Therefore, the "Gentiles" that the MDS becomes a "light" to, then become the "Other Sheep" as Jesus put it, "who are NOT of this [Jewish] fold." In other words, they are NOT of the "fold" of Israel, like the 200 million will be. -- See John 10:16.

What do you think of the thought of dividing up the entire earth into two (2) distinct groups before Jehovah.

1. Israel [comprised of small group of repentant JWs & Miraculous gathering of 200 million who have had no previous religious affiliation]

and

2. All other nations who benefit from the Abrahamic Promise of Gen. 22:18 and accept "living waters" of truth from the hand of newly founded "Israel" [200 million included]. By listening to the "good news" message [from the 200 million], the "Other Sheep" BENEFIT THEMSELVES, as promised.

We can see these two (2) distinct groups described within the prophecy Isaiah 49:5-7.

I'd like to get your thoughts on this. What do you think?

Mary

Guest wrote:...Having many close friends who are Catholic, Episcopal, Protestant, born-again, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, even a couple of Buddhists, I'm hoping and praying that many of these people can currently be considered, spiritually speaking, "stupid". I believe that the 16th chapter of Ezekiel holds out hope for them, the prostitute's "sisters" who are "not owing to her covenant".

Or do I have this wrong?

You are correct in assuming the two (2) "prostitute" sisters of Jerusalem shown in the 16th chapter of Ezekiel, who are not in the holy covenant of God, would picture individuals who are OUTSIDE the nation of Israel. You are also correct in assuming these individuals represent religious organizations that do not have Jehovah's Favor, at the time of Israel's inspection. However, it would be incorrect to assume these individuals spoken of in Ezekiel 16th chapter, would make up the priestly nation of the 200 Million...that will lead the world in righteousness, as future "Kings" & "Priests" before Jehovah, and make up the royal government that will rule the earth. -- Revelation 5:9, 10

This is because God holds out the hope for them to become "Abrahamic" People, individuals [or "nations"] who will benefit from the promise to "bless themselves" by their obedience to Israel. -- Gen. 22:18; Isaiah 2:2-4

So what makes Jehovah's witnesses any different from all other religious organizations, that God could bestow this great honor upon them? Ezekiel 16:60 shows Jehovah is going to award the "prostitute" city of Jerusalem with the "INDEFINITELY LASTING COVENANT". But, why would Jehovah do this, since in verse 59, he emphatically stated this particular "prostitute" herself, had "broken his oath, His covenant."

Further, Jehovah said in verse 61 of the 16th chapter of Ezekiel, He would give these other two (2) "prostitute sisters" to Jerusalem as "daughters" or subordinants to Jerusalem. Again, why?

Well we would have to admit, this would not be due to the fact that the nation of Israel [or Jerusalem] kept the "covenant" faithfully to God's satisfaction. Especially since Jehovah openly acknowledges Jerusalem is to be found a "prostitute" herself, when she is inspected in the last days, as noted in verse 61. No, she did NOT keep the covenant herself, and was found UNFAITHFUL by God, during her time of inspection.

So the real answer as to why Jehovah takes this action and gives the 200 Million individuals of faith to Israel, must lie in this powerful fact:

Since Jehovah sees these organized religious groups (including Jehovah's witnesses) as being "prostitutes" before Him, what will make the decisive difference to receive the 200 Million Blessing, will be the "Male Child" repentance, that really "saves the day," as it were. It will be the collective, repentant efforts of the "Male Child" that will tip the scales in favor of Jehovah's witnesses, since they have broke away from the apostate nation of Jehovah's witnesses and have been willing to clean themselves, purify their "gift offering" before Jehovah, so that they can finally become acceptable to Him. No other religious group can claim to have done this, or had a breakaway group from themselves to have ever done this. These ones (Male Child) will seek for Jehovah diligently, after leaving WTBTS, until they find him, repent and finally accept the new "Messenger of the Covenant" that God has sent to them, to clean them up before Him. -- Malachi 3:1-5; Revelation 12:5

After the Male Child repents of these acts of "Prostitution", then forgiveness is granted Israel, and appropriately Jehovah nexts cleans up the Male Child (purifies them), then He allows them to collect the 200 Million Individuals of faith, who have never committed to any religious organization before. -- Isaiah 65:1; Isaiah 66:18, 19

Hope this helps.

agape,

Mary